A Podcast for Loan Officers Ready To Ramp Up Business
Come To Find Out, I Don’t Really Suck…
Episode 612
If you want a simple framework to stop overthinking lost deals and start winning more business by fixing what actually matters, visit GetMoreLoans.com.
Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.
In this episode, Carl sits down with Jim Reed for a candid, practical conversation about why loan officers lose business and why it usually has nothing to do with rates, skill, or talent.
Carl breaks down the four real reasons someone does not choose you, they did not know you, they could not relate to you, you did not present a clear plan, or you never asked for the commitment, and explains how most loan officers make these problems far bigger in their head than they actually are.
The discussion dives into visibility, relatability, simple follow up plans, and why asking for the business is often the fastest lever to pull if you want immediate growth, along with real stories that make these concepts easy to understand and apply.
If you have ever walked away from a missed opportunity thinking you just were not good enough, this episode will help you reset your mindset, focus on the right activities, and realize that fixing a few small things can dramatically change your results.
Dave Kammerer: He’s #1 In Volume And Here’s How
Episode 611
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.
In this episode, Carl sits down with Dave Kammerer, the number one producer in volume at Summit Funding, to unpack how he consistently leads a massive branch while still producing at an elite level himself. Dave shares what it really looks like to be a producing branch manager, why most people misunderstand that role, and how he intentionally built his personal production to run efficiently so he could also coach, lead, and grow others.
Dave breaks down his philosophy around time blocking, calendar control, and being highly impactful in short conversations, whether that is with loan officers, referral partners, or clients. He explains how focusing on what you can control eliminates noise, sharpens decision making, and allows you to scale both production and leadership without burning out.
You will also hear exactly where his business comes from, including how roughly half of his volume is driven by past clients and database relationships, how he stays top of mind through simple systems and client events, and why genuine curiosity about people is one of the most powerful business development tools loan officers overlook.
If you want to learn how a true leader balances production, coaching, and legacy building while staying competitive and fulfilled, this conversation with Dave Kammerer delivers a masterclass in efficient growth, servant leadership, and long term success in the mortgage business.
Linus Thalman – Old-School Sales in a High-Tech Mortgage World
Episode 610
If you want help building a sales process that blends real relationships with smart technology, without racing to the lowest price, visit GetMoreLoans.com.
Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.
In this episode, Carl sits down with Linus Thalman, a Metro Detroit based loan officer and brokerage owner who closed 150 personal units this year by leaning into old school sales fundamentals in a high tech mortgage world. Linus shares his journey from starting in the business back in 2003 to becoming a top producing broker who still meets buyers face to face and believes relationships will always win.
Linus breaks down why convenience can quietly kill conversion, how returning to in person buyer consultations boosted his conversion rate by 15%, and why being a true professional means guiding clients through a full sales process instead of just sending a link and quoting a rate. He also explains how coaching, accountability, and consistent activity played a major role in his best year ever.
The conversation dives into team structure, how Linus simplified his operation by assigning one person to manage each loan from start to finish, and how he uses technology and AI as support tools without letting them replace the loan officer. Linus shares practical insights on agent relationships, open houses, database follow up, and why combining marketing, prospecting, and relationship building is the real edge.
If you want proof that old school relationship based selling still works and actually works better when paired with the right technology, this episode will challenge how you think about growth, efficiency, and what really drives long term success in the mortgage business.
How Adam Crosley Builds Wealth by Paying Himself First
Episode 609
If you want help getting clear on your numbers, your income, and a smarter path to long term freedom, schedule a free strategy call at LoanOfficerStrategyCall.com.
Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.
In this episode, Carl sits down with Adam Crosley, a regional manager with Crown Home Mortgage, for a candid conversation about money, investing, and what it really means to make work optional. The discussion kicks off with Adam sharing how he saved over $8,400 in a single month by consistently paying himself 25% first, and why that habit alone puts him ahead of the vast majority of Americans.
Carl and Adam dive deep into real numbers around real estate investing versus the stock market, pulling from decades of firsthand experience. Carl openly shares lessons learned from single family rentals, negative cash flow, and underestimated maintenance, while comparing those results to long term investing in the S&P 500 and precious metals. The conversation strips away theory and focuses on what actually builds wealth with fewer distractions and less stress.
They also explore multi unit real estate, leverage, tax strategies, liquidity, and why most investors underestimate the true cost of time and opportunity. Throughout the episode, the message stays clear and practical: save consistently, know your numbers, and keep your focus on the activities that produce the highest return.
If you want a real world conversation about building long term wealth while staying focused on your mortgage business and your family, this episode will challenge how you think about money, investing, and freedom.
4 Years In: 175 Closed Loans 2025
Episode 608
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.
In this episode, Carl sits down with Chris Kloc, a Chattanooga based loan officer who is just four years into the business and on pace to close roughly 175 loans in 2025. Chris shares his journey from being completely outside the mortgage industry to building a high performing, leveraged team and producing at a level most loan officers never reach.
Chris breaks down the simple principles that fueled his growth, including ruthless implementation, tracking daily activity, and shortening the gap between learning something proven and actually doing it. He explains how accountability, consistency, and being highly active and visible in the market drove both his purchase and refinance production.
The conversation also dives into team structure, buying back time, and why knowing your real job as a loan officer is critical once production starts to scale. Chris outlines how he built leverage around himself so he could stay focused on lead generation, consultations, and leadership.
If you are early in your career or stuck at a few loans a month and want a clear picture of what it really takes to scale quickly without burning out, this episode delivers practical lessons you can apply immediately.
The Power of Mastermind Groups With John King
Episode 607
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.
In this episode, Carl sits down with John King, a Sacramento based branch manager and 25 year mortgage veteran who is on pace to close roughly 135 units this year. John shares how leading mastermind groups for local business owners has strengthened his leadership skills, expanded his influence, and created deeper, more loyal relationships in his market.
John explains how his mastermind groups are structured, why they are intentionally not leads groups, and how teaching and facilitating conversations has helped him grow personally and professionally. He breaks down the difference between coaching and masterminding, and why removing pressure and formal accountability actually increased engagement and trust.
The conversation also dives into confidence, imposter syndrome, and why fear never really disappears, even for experienced producers. Carl and John unpack how stepping into leadership roles sharpens confidence, improves communication, and positively impacts sales conversations and relationships.
If you are looking for a smarter way to grow through leadership, collaboration, and shared ideas rather than grinding harder, this episode delivers a powerful blueprint you can apply right away.
191 Closings For The Month!
Episode 606
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.
In this episode, Carl sits down with Robyn LaVassaur, a powerhouse leader and producer whose branch closed an incredible 191 units in a single month, and this was not a one-time spike. Robyn shares her journey from a small-town start with no industry background to becoming one of the top producers and executives in the country, all while raising a family and building a high-performing team.
Robyn breaks down the simple math behind consistent production, including why daily lead goals, tracking conversion, and focusing on tomorrow’s money are non negotiable for long-term success. She explains how her team maintains high standards through clear expectations, strong process control, and a culture built around service rather than pressure.
The conversation also dives deep into accountability, leadership, and mindset as Carl and Robyn unpack why most loan officers struggle with consistency and how tracking activity removes emotion from the business. Robyn shares why controlling the process, setting expectations early, and measuring what actually matters leads to predictable results month after month.
If you want a real-world look at how disciplined activity, clear numbers, and accountability with heart can drive massive production, this episode delivers a masterclass you can apply immediately.
The Loan Consultation Checklist with Jenay Bowen
Episode 605
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.
In this episode, Carl is joined by top producer Jenay Bowen, who consistently closes eight to nine units a month by following a structured loan consultation process that dramatically increases conversion and minimizes surprises for buyers and agents. Jenay walks through her three part framework intro, nuts and bolts, and close and explains how it transforms the pre approval meeting into a smooth, predictable, and highly professional experience.
You’ll hear how she uses a simple 21 point checklist to stay on track, avoid missed steps, and set clear expectations from the start, which she says eliminates up to 90 percent of the problems that usually surface later in the transaction. Jenay shares how she educates clients with real numbers, guides couples to get aligned on budget, and uses her triangle of trust approach to strengthen agent relationships in every meeting. She also breaks down her pilot and turbulence story that prepares buyers for the journey ahead and shows why it boosts confidence and trust.
Carl and Jenay dig into her closeout strategy, including why she has every borrower sign their application on the spot, how she asks for referrals in a natural way, and why this meeting creates pre approvals that agents view as solid as cash. Her system leaves nothing to chance and gives loan officers a repeatable process that increases conversion without adding more hours to the day.
If you want pre approvals that stick, smoother transactions, and a consistent path to higher conversion, Jenay’s process gives you the blueprint.
How Sarah Cox Turns Loan Clients Into Raving Fans
Episode 604
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.
In this episode, Carl is joined by top-producing loan officer and team leader Sarah Cox, who breaks down her full 5 star client experience system and explains how she consistently turns borrowers into lifelong fans. Sarah shares how a simple Walt Disney quote on her desk sparked the idea for a client journey that feels thoughtful, tangible, and unforgettable in a world full of digital noise and lookalike lenders.
You’ll hear how she re-engineered every stage of the client path, from branded thank you postcards with QR-activated homebuyer guides, to glossy pre-approval packets that feel like a true milestone event, to sweet contract gifts, to a clear to close pizza box that creates excitement and earns glowing reviews. She even walks through the watercolor home magnets she gives at closing, a unique top-of-mind tool that stays on the client’s refrigerator long after move-in day.
Sarah and Carl also explore how these touchpoints spark more referrals, how she built the system so her whole team can use it, and how she’s using this experience strategy to book more agent appointments than ever before. She opens up about what she learned from major brands like Disney, Apple, and Coca-Cola, why she believes loan officers should invest 8 to 10 percent of gross revenue back into marketing, and how this shift is helping her team close more loans with less chasing.
If you want to separate yourself from every lender down the street and create a client journey that builds loyalty, referrals, and remarkable moments, Sarah’s blueprint will show you how to elevate your entire business and become the person of interest that borrowers and agents are drawn to.
Connect with Sarah and see how she runs her operation at StartWithSarah.com
