4 Years In: 175 Closed Loans 2025

Episode 608

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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.

In this episode, Carl sits down with Chris Kloc, a Chattanooga based loan officer who is just four years into the business and on pace to close roughly 175 loans in 2025. Chris shares his journey from being completely outside the mortgage industry to building a high performing, leveraged team and producing at a level most loan officers never reach.

Chris breaks down the simple principles that fueled his growth, including ruthless implementation, tracking daily activity, and shortening the gap between learning something proven and actually doing it. He explains how accountability, consistency, and being highly active and visible in the market drove both his purchase and refinance production.

The conversation also dives into team structure, buying back time, and why knowing your real job as a loan officer is critical once production starts to scale. Chris outlines how he built leverage around himself so he could stay focused on lead generation, consultations, and leadership.

If you are early in your career or stuck at a few loans a month and want a clear picture of what it really takes to scale quickly without burning out, this episode delivers practical lessons you can apply immediately.

Call Reluctance: 3 Things That Actually Fix It

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In today’s Wednesday Quick Tip, Carl White breaks down call reluctance into three simple truths every loan officer needs to hear. He explains why confidence only shows up after you take action, why the people you’re calling are rarely as intimidating as you imagine, and why knowing what to say to the right people changes everything.

If picking up the phone feels harder than it should, this quick tip will reframe how you think about calls and show you why solving call reluctance is much simpler than most loan officers believe.

The Power of Mastermind Groups With John King

Episode 607

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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.

In this episode, Carl sits down with John King, a Sacramento based branch manager and 25 year mortgage veteran who is on pace to close roughly 135 units this year. John shares how leading mastermind groups for local business owners has strengthened his leadership skills, expanded his influence, and created deeper, more loyal relationships in his market.

John explains how his mastermind groups are structured, why they are intentionally not leads groups, and how teaching and facilitating conversations has helped him grow personally and professionally. He breaks down the difference between coaching and masterminding, and why removing pressure and formal accountability actually increased engagement and trust.

The conversation also dives into confidence, imposter syndrome, and why fear never really disappears, even for experienced producers. Carl and John unpack how stepping into leadership roles sharpens confidence, improves communication, and positively impacts sales conversations and relationships.

If you are looking for a smarter way to grow through leadership, collaboration, and shared ideas rather than grinding harder, this episode delivers a powerful blueprint you can apply right away.

191 Closings For The Month!

Episode 606

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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.

In this episode, Carl sits down with Robyn LaVassaur, a powerhouse leader and producer whose branch closed an incredible 191 units in a single month, and this was not a one-time spike. Robyn shares her journey from a small-town start with no industry background to becoming one of the top producers and executives in the country, all while raising a family and building a high-performing team.

Robyn breaks down the simple math behind consistent production, including why daily lead goals, tracking conversion, and focusing on tomorrow’s money are non negotiable for long-term success. She explains how her team maintains high standards through clear expectations, strong process control, and a culture built around service rather than pressure.

The conversation also dives deep into accountability, leadership, and mindset as Carl and Robyn unpack why most loan officers struggle with consistency and how tracking activity removes emotion from the business. Robyn shares why controlling the process, setting expectations early, and measuring what actually matters leads to predictable results month after month.

If you want a real-world look at how disciplined activity, clear numbers, and accountability with heart can drive massive production, this episode delivers a masterclass you can apply immediately.

4 Reasons They Didn’t Use You

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In today’s Wednesday Quick Tip, Carl breaks down the four clear reasons a prospect or agent decides not to work with you. He explains how being unknown, not relatable, lacking a clear plan, or failing to directly ask for the business quietly costs loan officers deals every day. Carl also shares how top producers solve each of these issues in simple, practical ways. When you clean up these four areas, your referrals, conversions, and confidence all change.